2ms
Mar 15, 12:51 PM
I was really thinking about an iMac, but I'm considering a Sony Vaio laptop with an IPS monitor from a 3rd party. I'll definitely wait to see what Apple comes out with this week, though.
Whenever anyone posts on here that they're thinking of going Windows, a lot of people either shout TROLL! or say: fine, goodbye.
I still feel like it's a shame to leave Macs behind. Still, again I have to say that Windows 7 offers a lot more to the Mac-learned creative community than any other version from Microsoft.**
**Other than maybe Windows 2000 pro in its heyday... nice solid system that got out of your way.
Really? I have Windows 7 on desktop and find it to be the same crap as Vista but with a new theme pack. Other than the slightly different appearance it seams essentially exactly the same (ie the worst Windows since M.E.).
Whenever anyone posts on here that they're thinking of going Windows, a lot of people either shout TROLL! or say: fine, goodbye.
I still feel like it's a shame to leave Macs behind. Still, again I have to say that Windows 7 offers a lot more to the Mac-learned creative community than any other version from Microsoft.**
**Other than maybe Windows 2000 pro in its heyday... nice solid system that got out of your way.
Really? I have Windows 7 on desktop and find it to be the same crap as Vista but with a new theme pack. Other than the slightly different appearance it seams essentially exactly the same (ie the worst Windows since M.E.).
cubist
Jul 4, 05:56 PM
That would be a gigantic step backwards. Only being able to run Applications deemed worthy by Apple? It maybe fine for your very average PC user who writes email, iWorks, and browses internet - but anyone else - crippling.
I suppose they could have two flavours of the OS - the locked down version called "Th iOS desktop Disney Edition"! :)
... as a developer, I'd like to have an App Store I could put apps in and have Apple take care of the shipping/marketing/etc., just cut me a check once a month. They could be Mac apps rather than iPad apps. You could also run the iPad or iPhone apps using a variation on the iPhone Simulator that comes with the SDK.
Now, I do think there is a problem with the App Store as it currently exists: there is not enough organization, so that it's difficult to find the app you really want. But that's a separate issue, and I'm sure it will get fixed over time.
I suppose they could have two flavours of the OS - the locked down version called "Th iOS desktop Disney Edition"! :)
... as a developer, I'd like to have an App Store I could put apps in and have Apple take care of the shipping/marketing/etc., just cut me a check once a month. They could be Mac apps rather than iPad apps. You could also run the iPad or iPhone apps using a variation on the iPhone Simulator that comes with the SDK.
Now, I do think there is a problem with the App Store as it currently exists: there is not enough organization, so that it's difficult to find the app you really want. But that's a separate issue, and I'm sure it will get fixed over time.
Neuro
Sep 12, 05:31 PM
Gah!! This gapless playback thing is annoying me. I upgraded as soon as the keynote finished and it's still analysing my library (37825 songs). What's it even for?!
Um, albums that don't have gaps in... Dj Mixes, live performances, soundtracks etc...
It's actually an incredibly nice feature that millions of people have been waiting for.
Um, albums that don't have gaps in... Dj Mixes, live performances, soundtracks etc...
It's actually an incredibly nice feature that millions of people have been waiting for.
plinden
Apr 4, 02:27 PM
Dogmatic belief in the nonexistence of The Flying Spaghetti Monster can be considered a religion.
Agreed.
Agreed.
IJ Reilly
Aug 29, 11:04 AM
Ok, I see your point. But when does the consumer stand up and say "I DON'T WANT WINDOWS ON MY COMPUTER" and force the Dells to load something else besides Windows. If the OS was so undesirable, the consumer would have been up in arms. Dell sells computers with Linux preloaded, but I don't see Linux making any dent in anyones armor.
I'd sooner wait for hell to freeze over.
I'd sooner wait for hell to freeze over.
Gregintosh
Apr 12, 01:11 PM
Whoever said that was hard to understand? Not me!
This is a big problem (and has been for 30+ years)...that everything we buy in the USA is made somewhere else...USA no longer manufactures except for our junky USA cars.
Sure...at some point when this all started decades ago, it WAS cheaper to build certain things outside the US...but then everyone got on the bandwagon and now it's the norm. (Thanks politicians!)
The "it's cheaper to build outside the US!" is a bogus argument and has become an evil of our own doing.
If it costs X to build in the US, please don't tell me it costs 1/10th of X to build, import, pay taxes, blah blah blah, to get it back into your company's hands.
We can all agree that some things, yes, are easier and/or cheaper to build outside the US for a variety of reasons. Our USA system needs some serious overhauls to get stuff to be built back in the US other than screws and toilet paper.
You are still not getting it. It does cost a fraction to build things outside the US.
The US minimum wage is $8.25 per hour in many states. The minimum wage in a country like the Philippines is about $0.71.
Because of labor unions and their regulations, a manufacturer typically needs to pay significantly above minimum wage anyway, PLUS benefits like health insurance cost way more. In the Philippines (which I bring up because I employ people there) health care cost about $10 per worker per month. Here in the US it can cost several hundred.
Payroll taxes are no picnic either. Typically, in the US the total cost of hiring a worker when you factor in payroll, admin, benefits, etc. is that worker's salary + 25%.
Labor is one of the biggest expenses any company has. Manufacturing requires a lot of labor too. You need people to operate machines, fix machines, load products, even assemble certain items by hand in some cases.
So you can easily do the math. Where in one country you can get people for a dollar an hour to work and in other you get them for $10-$12 an hour, clearly the cost to operate in expensive country is 10x as much. That means you have to raise your prices that much more.
Now all total manufacturing expenses aren't 10x more, since raw materials will typically cost the same anywhere in the world and there are some overhead expenses as well, but that labor difference is still huge when you consider a company like FoxConn that has 920,000 employees.
Moving to the US would mean they would effectively have labor costs as if they were hiring 10 million employees instead of 1 million. You can't say that wouldn't make them raise their prices several fold to compensate for that.
You can run the math yourself based on their number of employees, average wages in China, average wages in the US and their profit margins.
Anyone who thinks it costs the same or only slightly more to produce here is living in a dream world.
This is a big problem (and has been for 30+ years)...that everything we buy in the USA is made somewhere else...USA no longer manufactures except for our junky USA cars.
Sure...at some point when this all started decades ago, it WAS cheaper to build certain things outside the US...but then everyone got on the bandwagon and now it's the norm. (Thanks politicians!)
The "it's cheaper to build outside the US!" is a bogus argument and has become an evil of our own doing.
If it costs X to build in the US, please don't tell me it costs 1/10th of X to build, import, pay taxes, blah blah blah, to get it back into your company's hands.
We can all agree that some things, yes, are easier and/or cheaper to build outside the US for a variety of reasons. Our USA system needs some serious overhauls to get stuff to be built back in the US other than screws and toilet paper.
You are still not getting it. It does cost a fraction to build things outside the US.
The US minimum wage is $8.25 per hour in many states. The minimum wage in a country like the Philippines is about $0.71.
Because of labor unions and their regulations, a manufacturer typically needs to pay significantly above minimum wage anyway, PLUS benefits like health insurance cost way more. In the Philippines (which I bring up because I employ people there) health care cost about $10 per worker per month. Here in the US it can cost several hundred.
Payroll taxes are no picnic either. Typically, in the US the total cost of hiring a worker when you factor in payroll, admin, benefits, etc. is that worker's salary + 25%.
Labor is one of the biggest expenses any company has. Manufacturing requires a lot of labor too. You need people to operate machines, fix machines, load products, even assemble certain items by hand in some cases.
So you can easily do the math. Where in one country you can get people for a dollar an hour to work and in other you get them for $10-$12 an hour, clearly the cost to operate in expensive country is 10x as much. That means you have to raise your prices that much more.
Now all total manufacturing expenses aren't 10x more, since raw materials will typically cost the same anywhere in the world and there are some overhead expenses as well, but that labor difference is still huge when you consider a company like FoxConn that has 920,000 employees.
Moving to the US would mean they would effectively have labor costs as if they were hiring 10 million employees instead of 1 million. You can't say that wouldn't make them raise their prices several fold to compensate for that.
You can run the math yourself based on their number of employees, average wages in China, average wages in the US and their profit margins.
Anyone who thinks it costs the same or only slightly more to produce here is living in a dream world.
2ms
Mar 15, 02:44 PM
You may have Windows 7 on your desktop but I doubt if you've ever used it properly. Now I've been a Mac user for a long time and I own an iMac and an MBP but let me tell you this, Windows 7 is definitely much better than Vista.
I really don't want to compare Windows to OSX but after using both Vista and 7, I am very confident when I say that Microsoft has really done a good job with Windows 7. Vista was a disaster though....
What are some of the things you like better about 7 over Vista? I upgraded a few weeks ago and really haven't been able to find any improvements. Even the performance problems haven't been improved (benchmarks) (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=623235).
I really don't want to compare Windows to OSX but after using both Vista and 7, I am very confident when I say that Microsoft has really done a good job with Windows 7. Vista was a disaster though....
What are some of the things you like better about 7 over Vista? I upgraded a few weeks ago and really haven't been able to find any improvements. Even the performance problems haven't been improved (benchmarks) (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=623235).
ZoomZoomZoom
Sep 6, 08:58 AM
Does anyone know how the 7300GT compares to the X1600? I am leaning towards the 20" to replace my 17" rev. A iMacG5, but would upgrade to the 24" is the GPU is a big bump.
Apple has it benchmarked. It is a large jump.
http://www.apple.com/imac/graphics.html
Apple has it benchmarked. It is a large jump.
http://www.apple.com/imac/graphics.html
Tastic Bycrom
Nov 2, 05:28 PM
Exactly! And not only video video tag support but the whole HTML5. Much faster and cleaner and ready to replace this flash crap. Good thing Apple is so large that they can actually transform whole markets.
I'd argue that it's not "ready." HTML5 is a working draft, and video tag codec support is still one of those items that is not entirely settled. I'm all for getting every browser to implement it and maybe even start using it after a specific browser/codec check, but fallback is still going to be flash for the time being.
I'd argue that it's not "ready." HTML5 is a working draft, and video tag codec support is still one of those items that is not entirely settled. I'm all for getting every browser to implement it and maybe even start using it after a specific browser/codec check, but fallback is still going to be flash for the time being.
gri
Mar 21, 03:57 PM
Why doesn't stuff like this happen to me.
Your wife forbidding you to buy an iPad...?
Your wife forbidding you to buy an iPad...?
Hilmi Hamidi
Oct 12, 06:58 PM
It's not actually my setup - I just wanted to drop a link to it, since I believe it blasts most other peoples collections away :)
Then, technically you are using his setup pics without his permission.
The least you should do is put the original poster's name as credit.
Then, technically you are using his setup pics without his permission.
The least you should do is put the original poster's name as credit.
DJinTX
Mar 25, 02:26 PM
Does iPad wifi and iPad 3G use the same update file or do I need to download twice?
Already got iPhone to do so 3 iOS downloads would be nice to avoid!
Why would you want to download instead of using iTunes. It will download and install the right update file for each device. No worries. Based on the varying file sizes being reported here, there are obviously different builds for each device.
Already got iPhone to do so 3 iOS downloads would be nice to avoid!
Why would you want to download instead of using iTunes. It will download and install the right update file for each device. No worries. Based on the varying file sizes being reported here, there are obviously different builds for each device.
LethalWolfe
Apr 13, 03:47 PM
If it's shipping in June, even June 30, how can it not be near final form? I mean when a developer tells me s/w is "nowhere near final form" I'm thinking early beta at best. But 2.5 months from release (assume June 30) shouldn't it be in the bug testing phases and everything else locked up?
I think they meant the build they showed last night, which is the same build they showed in Feb, is an old version that's no where near what the final version in terms of features. For all we know the build they showed might have from Dec or Jan (if or possibly even older).
Lethal
I think they meant the build they showed last night, which is the same build they showed in Feb, is an old version that's no where near what the final version in terms of features. For all we know the build they showed might have from Dec or Jan (if or possibly even older).
Lethal
Mac American
Apr 12, 04:46 PM
Most people here are missing the big picture. I'm pretty old and have witnessed the changes in the tech sector. Back in '01 a lot of laptops were made or at least assembled in the USA, and they were quality products, but with cheap foreign labor most global companies could not resist the couple of percent they could add to their profit margins by moving overseas. The company I worked for made laptops for a major name, but they closed the plant here to save between 3.00 and 6.00 dollars per unit, a very small percentage of the overall value. A company like Apple could easily, make and assemble products here, the profit margin on an iPhone is around 60%, but if they did that then there profit margin would only be 50%. In 2000, American EXPORTED more high tech components than it imported. Here is the .gov source (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c0007.html#2000). We have competed and still can. As the Yuan rises against the dollar because the Chinese government can no longer keep it down the price on all these goods will rise, this is happening right now, the Chinese government can't combat inflation and rising food prices. So, companies like Foxconn are forced to look for cheaper labor.
Macula
Jan 11, 05:31 PM
Bill gates farted
(UPDATE: I just realized other people made the same thought. Well, where there's smoke there's fire).
(UPDATE: I just realized other people made the same thought. Well, where there's smoke there's fire).
MacBoobsPro
Aug 8, 10:09 AM
I have to descent from the mass and say I was not impressed by the Keynote. What the hell is with Safari still having the brushed metal interface, as well as the finder, etc...
I thought they were finally going to get rid of that and get some consistency in their GUI. :mad:
Overall, I am much more interested in the developers. When is OS X going to be more than a different OS and get some key native applications? Apple continues to lead the show, as they should, but they should take a hint from Microsoft and promote their developers more. Like it or not, it's not Apple, but ultimately their developers that will grow the platform.
Steve really should have pressed the developers to commit on stage to release dates...if that was possible. Microsoft should have been present to provide some information in regards to the next version of Office and its time frame for release.
How can he press them for release times when they haven't even got their hands on the new Developer kit?
Also its up to the developers i.e. Adobe et al to get the key native apps out the door. Apple is doing everything it can to help them. i.e. Xcode 2.x, hands on labs etc. Thats what WWDC is for.
I thought they were finally going to get rid of that and get some consistency in their GUI. :mad:
Overall, I am much more interested in the developers. When is OS X going to be more than a different OS and get some key native applications? Apple continues to lead the show, as they should, but they should take a hint from Microsoft and promote their developers more. Like it or not, it's not Apple, but ultimately their developers that will grow the platform.
Steve really should have pressed the developers to commit on stage to release dates...if that was possible. Microsoft should have been present to provide some information in regards to the next version of Office and its time frame for release.
How can he press them for release times when they haven't even got their hands on the new Developer kit?
Also its up to the developers i.e. Adobe et al to get the key native apps out the door. Apple is doing everything it can to help them. i.e. Xcode 2.x, hands on labs etc. Thats what WWDC is for.
Gimzotoy
Aug 24, 04:47 PM
Sigh. None of the batteries I have for my 12" PowerBook are covered, not even the one that the Apple store recommended I stop using due to the excessive heat (which died 5 days out of warranty and Apple would do nothing about). Sucks.
Burnsey
Nov 2, 05:53 PM
I hate flash. It's slow and resource intensive in OSX, don't know who to blame for that though, Apple or Adobe.
Demoman
Aug 29, 06:45 PM
I don't know what people are fussing about. If these price points are true, Windows Vista is pretty cheap.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like. Complain all you want, but more competition puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more. Support for Direct X 10 is going to be felt in about 1-2 years when people start getting DX10 graphics cards and more games take advantage of it.
At least with Apple you DO get the 'greatest'. Not so with Brand X I am afraid. How long has it taken MS to get a new OS out? Years! And if MS could charge for their Service Packs, by calling them something new, they would. But, their product is so full of bad code they cannot do it. Also, your view that MS's innovation "..puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more." is a laugh. It might stop some of the bleeding in Redmond. Vista better be a success. Otherwise, the market share is going to shrink even further.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like. Complain all you want, but more competition puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more. Support for Direct X 10 is going to be felt in about 1-2 years when people start getting DX10 graphics cards and more games take advantage of it.
At least with Apple you DO get the 'greatest'. Not so with Brand X I am afraid. How long has it taken MS to get a new OS out? Years! And if MS could charge for their Service Packs, by calling them something new, they would. But, their product is so full of bad code they cannot do it. Also, your view that MS's innovation "..puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more." is a laugh. It might stop some of the bleeding in Redmond. Vista better be a success. Otherwise, the market share is going to shrink even further.
Pegamush
Mar 18, 03:02 PM
some people just want an ipod for listening to music.
not every apple user in the world needs all that iOS stuff.
i'm really hoping for an ultimate classic model, but i'm being a bit hopeless.
meantime I just bought a used 4g ipod classic 20gb for 30� (40$), it's wonderful :)
not every apple user in the world needs all that iOS stuff.
i'm really hoping for an ultimate classic model, but i'm being a bit hopeless.
meantime I just bought a used 4g ipod classic 20gb for 30� (40$), it's wonderful :)
rockosmodurnlif
Mar 28, 10:29 PM
There seems to be an aftermarket (http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=wwdc+2011&_sacat=0&_odkw=wwdc&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313)
FreeState
Mar 25, 07:53 PM
The YouTube app is not letting me play a lot of content "the owner of this video does not allow playback on the iPad."
Lady GaGa's Born This Way (Country Road Version) played before I updated and now won't play in the app - it will play in Safari on YouTubes website...
Lady GaGa's Born This Way (Country Road Version) played before I updated and now won't play in the app - it will play in Safari on YouTubes website...
BRLawyer
Aug 3, 03:45 PM
Not that I want to see you naked or anything, but I really want a Conroe iMac. Been putting off the intel iMacs for 8 months waiting for this update.
My iMac G5 is great, thanks very much...I would prefer an improved MB with better GPU and a Core 2 Duo inside...this would make me burn some Swiss Francs at once, hehehe..! :rolleyes:
My iMac G5 is great, thanks very much...I would prefer an improved MB with better GPU and a Core 2 Duo inside...this would make me burn some Swiss Francs at once, hehehe..! :rolleyes:
rdlink
Apr 17, 07:25 AM
Err... seems like a broad estimate like "2-3 weeks" is a rough idea. It's also not a long time. If people would just order and get on with their life there would be no need to hunt and peck and moan.
Agreed. Recipe for sucess:
Click.
Enter credit card information.
Get on with life.
Sign for package when it arrives in about three weeks.
Enjoy your new device.
The delays were actually a good thing for me. Gave me time to "cool off" and realize that my iPad 1 is working just fine for me, and I can get along without upgrading to this generation.
Agreed. Recipe for sucess:
Click.
Enter credit card information.
Get on with life.
Sign for package when it arrives in about three weeks.
Enjoy your new device.
The delays were actually a good thing for me. Gave me time to "cool off" and realize that my iPad 1 is working just fine for me, and I can get along without upgrading to this generation.
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