Blue Velvet
Aug 29, 02:26 AM
Apologies if someone has already posted this but just spotted this in Google News. Please note that many of the prices quoted are either in Canadian or Australian dollars.
PRICING details for Microsoft's forthcoming Vista Windows release are starting to leak out, with both Microsoft's Canadian operation and online retailer Amazon publishing prices online.
Amazon.com is listing pre-order copies of Windows Vista Ultimate for $US399 ($524), saying the product would be released on January 30, 2007.
Meanwhile, Microsoft's Canadian operation has inadvertently leaked prices for the forthcoming Windows Vista release.
According to posts on tech forum site Neowin.net, the Canadian website listed Windows Vista Ultimate for $C499 ($590). The Home Platinum edition was priced at $C299 and the Home Premium Upgrade version at $C199.
The Canadian website currently lists Windows XP Professional for a retail price of $C499. Microsoft Australia lists the same product for $479.
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,20291440%5E15321%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html
If these reports turn out to have any basis in reality, please let's not hear any more complaining about how expensive OSX is.
Edit: More links...
http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34770
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/29/ms_vista_canada/
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6110267.html
PRICING details for Microsoft's forthcoming Vista Windows release are starting to leak out, with both Microsoft's Canadian operation and online retailer Amazon publishing prices online.
Amazon.com is listing pre-order copies of Windows Vista Ultimate for $US399 ($524), saying the product would be released on January 30, 2007.
Meanwhile, Microsoft's Canadian operation has inadvertently leaked prices for the forthcoming Windows Vista release.
According to posts on tech forum site Neowin.net, the Canadian website listed Windows Vista Ultimate for $C499 ($590). The Home Platinum edition was priced at $C299 and the Home Premium Upgrade version at $C199.
The Canadian website currently lists Windows XP Professional for a retail price of $C499. Microsoft Australia lists the same product for $479.
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,20291440%5E15321%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html
If these reports turn out to have any basis in reality, please let's not hear any more complaining about how expensive OSX is.
Edit: More links...
http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34770
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/29/ms_vista_canada/
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6110267.html
ZoomZoomZoom
Sep 6, 09:15 AM
Nope, desktop chip.
There's a Go7300 though :p
Although... I'd rather see a Go 7600 or Mobile x1800 in the MBPs...
There's a Go7300 though :p
Although... I'd rather see a Go 7600 or Mobile x1800 in the MBPs...
elppa
Jan 11, 04:30 PM
Apple anouncesses global WIFI? would be nice to be able to go online with ipod touch/iphone were ever you could :confused:
And how are they going to pull this off infrastructure wise?
I haven't seen anyone errecting a wifi mast in my street yet? :)
And how are they going to pull this off infrastructure wise?
I haven't seen anyone errecting a wifi mast in my street yet? :)
Peace
Nov 27, 04:25 PM
If this works out and a Beatles iPod does come out with a commercial alongside I can almost guarantee you the song will be Revolution.
Just one persons opinion ;)
You say you want a revolution.
Well well you know.
We all want to change the world.
those are perfect words for Apple/Apple
Just one persons opinion ;)
You say you want a revolution.
Well well you know.
We all want to change the world.
those are perfect words for Apple/Apple
smulji
Mar 18, 09:21 PM
That thread is full of some of the most comical and short sighted statements you'll ever see. Good thing Steve Jobs obviously knew what he was doing a lot more than the forum posters of the time did. That's why I laugh at some of the more critical comments you see on some of the threads today as well. In 10 years they'll look just as comical and short sighted as those do I'm sure.
So true. That's why Steve Jobs is where he is and all the naysayers and criticizers are where they are.
So true. That's why Steve Jobs is where he is and all the naysayers and criticizers are where they are.
digitalbiker
Aug 29, 11:37 AM
It's really amazing to see here people justifying the price of Windows Vista, when not even corporations think about migrating to the "new" OS in 2-years time...Vista is just a rehashed NT, and no company will need it in the short term.
Corporations have many more factors to consider prior to updating than the general consumer. Price is only one of the many factors. In many cases the sticker price of the OS itself is the least restrictive factor when considering upgrading for a corporation.
Corporations have many more factors to consider prior to updating than the general consumer. Price is only one of the many factors. In many cases the sticker price of the OS itself is the least restrictive factor when considering upgrading for a corporation.
ejb190
Aug 3, 10:02 AM
I used to build a lot of fences for livestock farms. No matter how well we thought we built the fence, the only way to make sure the pigs couldn't get out was to put the pigs in...
And that's my feelings about computer security. At least these guys are going public with their findings. Now it's time for the computer savy public to put them through their paces.
And that's my feelings about computer security. At least these guys are going public with their findings. Now it's time for the computer savy public to put them through their paces.
Blue Velvet
Nov 27, 01:12 PM
I also think that whoever has the remaining rights to this material realise that its shelf-life is almost up. In 5-10 years time, the broad appeal of much of this material may have less relevance to the average consumer and its perceived market-value may be far less.
That's not a comment on the merits of The Beatles' music; just my view based on many of the comments I read by what I am assuming are younger music listeners.
I'm 43, many of these songs are ingrained into my memory from childhood, but the only Beatles albums I would possibly be interested in are maybe 2-4 remastered CDs; I'm not interested in downloads at all. But to be honest, I don't feel that by not currently owning them that my music collection is lacking at all.
That's not a comment on the merits of The Beatles' music; just my view based on many of the comments I read by what I am assuming are younger music listeners.
I'm 43, many of these songs are ingrained into my memory from childhood, but the only Beatles albums I would possibly be interested in are maybe 2-4 remastered CDs; I'm not interested in downloads at all. But to be honest, I don't feel that by not currently owning them that my music collection is lacking at all.
Treq
Nov 2, 11:24 PM
I just installed ClickToFlash (http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/) on all my Macs and my browsing experience has dramatically increased 1000% for the better. No more intrusive pop-up ads, distracting animations, and more importantly, long-loading, resource-intensive, useless, gimmicky intros and gadgets... unless I specifically ask for it.
I can only imagine what would happen if Flash apps on the iPhone didn't have such an ability to be optionally downloaded, let alone execute upon it loading. It's bad enough that AT&T's bandwidth is horrendous at times, I don't need to waste half a megabyte just downloading an advertisement.
+1
ClickToFlash is Awesome. My computer runs so much cooler now that I've installed it.
I can only imagine what would happen if Flash apps on the iPhone didn't have such an ability to be optionally downloaded, let alone execute upon it loading. It's bad enough that AT&T's bandwidth is horrendous at times, I don't need to waste half a megabyte just downloading an advertisement.
+1
ClickToFlash is Awesome. My computer runs so much cooler now that I've installed it.
mscriv
Apr 7, 07:07 PM
This is not true. There is no specific assertion in the Old Testament of any triune nature of god.
I could type up a bunch of stuff, but this website (http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/triunity.html) does a good job of covering all the bases regarding our difference of opinion on this matter. Here's two quick excerpts:
Jews say that the Shema (pronounced Shmah), "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord"1 contradicts the Christian doctrine that Jesus is God. In addition, there are a number of other verses that proclaim that God is one (see God is One). However, the triunity of God is taught throughout the Old Testament, including the Shema! How can a statement of oneness imply plurality? The word translated "one" from the Hebrew is echad, which demonstrates compound unity of oneness.
and
Some of the verses above include all members of the triunity (Isaiah 42:1, Isaiah 48:16, and Isaiah 61:1). Therefore, the Old Testament does reveal the Christian concept of the Godhead, with God being one God, consisting of three persons.
Remember what I said in the beginning. Complete understanding of the old testament comes through knowledge gained by the revelation of the new testament. They really can't be separated in terms of understanding the whole of God's message and work throughout history. Additionally, for the average person (who cannot read Hebrew and is not familiar with Jewish history and doctrine) it could be difficult to see the trinity in the old testament. That's why I suggest to people that they invest in a study Bible, possibly a Bible Encyclopedia, and some commentaries. These additional tools can help bring out the contextual clues provided by the original languages, the historical context, and the skill of cross referencing within the Bible.
Of course not any interpretation is valid; however, the Bible is very complex and contradicts itself in places. There is no set interpretation that can said to be right, rather a spectrum that can be justified. "Clear" is not a word I would use.
Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree. The Bible does not contradict itself in it's overall message of God's revelation of himself and plan for restoring the relationship with man that was destroyed by sin. Sure there are differences of application and interpretation regarding secondary matters (food laws, sexuality, alcohol, etc. etc.) and that is why we have different denominations within the Christian faith. However, the primary matter of who God is, how he dealt with the problem of sin, and how he we are to treat one another is clear and without contradiction. That is why I feel confident in telling you that Westboro is "off the mark" because they are not following Christ's example with how they treat their fellow man and how they represent God to others.
I realize that, to you, what I'm about to say might be viewed as an issue of semantics or "word manipulation", but to a genuine follower of Christ there is no such thing as "my interpretation". I believe what God says in his word and if I am confused about something I look to other parts of scripture to help me get at the correct interpretation of what is confusing me. You see it doesn't matter what I think or what I wish it would say, I come to the Bible with no preconceived notions and let it stand on it's own.
This is obviously where we part ways. For me the Bible is the product of man. Nothing more.
I understand. In most, if not all, of these discussions the eventual impasse that arises is centered on the issue of faith. Some choose to believe, some don't. Some are open to putting God to the test, some are not.
I could type up a bunch of stuff, but this website (http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/triunity.html) does a good job of covering all the bases regarding our difference of opinion on this matter. Here's two quick excerpts:
Jews say that the Shema (pronounced Shmah), "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord"1 contradicts the Christian doctrine that Jesus is God. In addition, there are a number of other verses that proclaim that God is one (see God is One). However, the triunity of God is taught throughout the Old Testament, including the Shema! How can a statement of oneness imply plurality? The word translated "one" from the Hebrew is echad, which demonstrates compound unity of oneness.
and
Some of the verses above include all members of the triunity (Isaiah 42:1, Isaiah 48:16, and Isaiah 61:1). Therefore, the Old Testament does reveal the Christian concept of the Godhead, with God being one God, consisting of three persons.
Remember what I said in the beginning. Complete understanding of the old testament comes through knowledge gained by the revelation of the new testament. They really can't be separated in terms of understanding the whole of God's message and work throughout history. Additionally, for the average person (who cannot read Hebrew and is not familiar with Jewish history and doctrine) it could be difficult to see the trinity in the old testament. That's why I suggest to people that they invest in a study Bible, possibly a Bible Encyclopedia, and some commentaries. These additional tools can help bring out the contextual clues provided by the original languages, the historical context, and the skill of cross referencing within the Bible.
Of course not any interpretation is valid; however, the Bible is very complex and contradicts itself in places. There is no set interpretation that can said to be right, rather a spectrum that can be justified. "Clear" is not a word I would use.
Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree. The Bible does not contradict itself in it's overall message of God's revelation of himself and plan for restoring the relationship with man that was destroyed by sin. Sure there are differences of application and interpretation regarding secondary matters (food laws, sexuality, alcohol, etc. etc.) and that is why we have different denominations within the Christian faith. However, the primary matter of who God is, how he dealt with the problem of sin, and how he we are to treat one another is clear and without contradiction. That is why I feel confident in telling you that Westboro is "off the mark" because they are not following Christ's example with how they treat their fellow man and how they represent God to others.
I realize that, to you, what I'm about to say might be viewed as an issue of semantics or "word manipulation", but to a genuine follower of Christ there is no such thing as "my interpretation". I believe what God says in his word and if I am confused about something I look to other parts of scripture to help me get at the correct interpretation of what is confusing me. You see it doesn't matter what I think or what I wish it would say, I come to the Bible with no preconceived notions and let it stand on it's own.
This is obviously where we part ways. For me the Bible is the product of man. Nothing more.
I understand. In most, if not all, of these discussions the eventual impasse that arises is centered on the issue of faith. Some choose to believe, some don't. Some are open to putting God to the test, some are not.
anim8or
May 5, 03:21 AM
I HATE 3D... its so poorly executed.... and even if it was better then it still seems a pointless direction to go in.
Soon enough i hope the movie studios see that all their efforts are pointless and stop wasting their budgets on a gimmick that has the masses divided the better.
I am so glad i waited for the iPad 2 and didn't make the mistake of waiting for the iPad 3(D)....!
Soon enough i hope the movie studios see that all their efforts are pointless and stop wasting their budgets on a gimmick that has the masses divided the better.
I am so glad i waited for the iPad 2 and didn't make the mistake of waiting for the iPad 3(D)....!
MikeAtari
Nov 27, 10:38 AM
Geez, this is a MONEY LOSER if there ever was one.
I loved the beatles when I was 6.
But, these days who's going to be buying these tracks!!!
Steve must love the Beatles, because this is a gift.
And will hardly be a profitable venture.
---
Yes, the stereo effect on the early albums is hard on headphones.
The drums ONLY in the Right ear.
The Guitars ONLY in the Left...
I loved the beatles when I was 6.
But, these days who's going to be buying these tracks!!!
Steve must love the Beatles, because this is a gift.
And will hardly be a profitable venture.
---
Yes, the stereo effect on the early albums is hard on headphones.
The drums ONLY in the Right ear.
The Guitars ONLY in the Left...
mikeapple
Apr 2, 02:20 AM
U Mad? :confused:
I'm not the one that is mad... I am just tired of seeing people on here hoping for a mediocre upgrade... such as no design change and little speed bump...not referring to this thread in particular, but i see it in others..
people have literally admitting to it. I just think we shouldn't be hoping for small advancements in tech
I'm not the one that is mad... I am just tired of seeing people on here hoping for a mediocre upgrade... such as no design change and little speed bump...not referring to this thread in particular, but i see it in others..
people have literally admitting to it. I just think we shouldn't be hoping for small advancements in tech
mr.barkan
Sep 12, 10:46 PM
I agree that Apple needs to come up with some new designs for their hardware. I think the new nanos are a perfect combination of the nano (slim design, flash memory) and the mini (seemless casing, scratch proof) but the other products seem to be long in the tooth. The MacBook Pro/PowerBook has looked basically the same since it was debuted with a G4 processor (what was that, 2002?). The MacBook/iBook got a somewhat update look with the latest release, but kind of took a step backwards IMO.
However, with all of that said, 99% of us do not work for Apple and do not know how to design like they do. Where do you go with the current MBP? I would love to see an anodized black version but that still does not give us much of a difference at all. I am interested in seeing new products. I was dissapointed when they released the new MacPro's in the same encolusers. An extra optical slot and moving the power chord to the top of the tower does not count as a redesign.
Oh c'mon!! Why did the designers at apple pay education for?? Really?!!
Ok... I studied design myself(although a cinematographer now ;) ), and I know how hard it is to keep a sleek, clean, "ahead of it�s time" look and feel. But please!! 1yr Retro style?? Are they using recycled minis or something??
Really guys... This is not a complaint but Steve "Marketing Master" Jobs was not happy on this one... I know alot of people love the minis, and I also know that they will sell millions of "retro" nanos... but in a market POV it�s really bad to "go back in time" with design and say it�s brand new. And one last note about them: There�s millions of colors on the pallete... why use the same ones?? Again: are they recycled?? Cause if they are, I�ll buy a couple, just for the sake of "saving the world".
the Mac Pros for example... they could�ve done the cases with different finish or something.. but keeping the same design saved them millions of cash...
BUT WAIT!! :p
Ok... let�s get a little optimistic here:
Steve told us all last year, that this (2006) was going the be the "year of transition". So it�s quite dumb of us to expect big redesigns, and/or mint new technologies...
That makes me think that the design team is REALLY focusing on applying those new patent technologies on a brand new line of products hard/software. And what happens is:
Marketing Director - Time for new yearlly ipods!!
Design Chief Exec. - Do we still have some Mini aluminum on stock?
Chief Hardware Engineer - Yes plenty for a couple of million.
Design Chief Exec. - Okay, so let�s just wrap up our current stock of nanos with it, and get the hell out of here.
Marketing Director - Yes, cof cof, sir.
;) These are just my two cents... :p
Conclusion: Big redesigns -> 2007-2008
However, with all of that said, 99% of us do not work for Apple and do not know how to design like they do. Where do you go with the current MBP? I would love to see an anodized black version but that still does not give us much of a difference at all. I am interested in seeing new products. I was dissapointed when they released the new MacPro's in the same encolusers. An extra optical slot and moving the power chord to the top of the tower does not count as a redesign.
Oh c'mon!! Why did the designers at apple pay education for?? Really?!!
Ok... I studied design myself(although a cinematographer now ;) ), and I know how hard it is to keep a sleek, clean, "ahead of it�s time" look and feel. But please!! 1yr Retro style?? Are they using recycled minis or something??
Really guys... This is not a complaint but Steve "Marketing Master" Jobs was not happy on this one... I know alot of people love the minis, and I also know that they will sell millions of "retro" nanos... but in a market POV it�s really bad to "go back in time" with design and say it�s brand new. And one last note about them: There�s millions of colors on the pallete... why use the same ones?? Again: are they recycled?? Cause if they are, I�ll buy a couple, just for the sake of "saving the world".
the Mac Pros for example... they could�ve done the cases with different finish or something.. but keeping the same design saved them millions of cash...
BUT WAIT!! :p
Ok... let�s get a little optimistic here:
Steve told us all last year, that this (2006) was going the be the "year of transition". So it�s quite dumb of us to expect big redesigns, and/or mint new technologies...
That makes me think that the design team is REALLY focusing on applying those new patent technologies on a brand new line of products hard/software. And what happens is:
Marketing Director - Time for new yearlly ipods!!
Design Chief Exec. - Do we still have some Mini aluminum on stock?
Chief Hardware Engineer - Yes plenty for a couple of million.
Design Chief Exec. - Okay, so let�s just wrap up our current stock of nanos with it, and get the hell out of here.
Marketing Director - Yes, cof cof, sir.
;) These are just my two cents... :p
Conclusion: Big redesigns -> 2007-2008
lilo777
Apr 2, 01:12 AM
more MP's ≠ better photos.
Yes, and that's why Apple is going to increase MPs from 5 to 8 but, obviously, it's "not about the specs".
Yes, and that's why Apple is going to increase MPs from 5 to 8 but, obviously, it's "not about the specs".
Teorik Deli
Mar 25, 06:57 PM
Is anyone having trouble like randomly opening apps? When I'm writing in Twitter App, it's switched to Notes. I back to Twitter and then it's switched and played music. I have iPod Touch 3rd. :confused:
PS: Sorry for bad English.
PS: Sorry for bad English.
Saladin
Jul 23, 01:32 AM
Hasn't anyone played Brain Age on the Nintendo DS? The text does not hurt my eyes at all and I have perfect 20/10 vision. I can play that game for hours straight with no problem. Apple can conquer any resolution problems. The only thing they can't fix is how much people bitch.
Cue
Nov 8, 08:49 AM
i bought a macbook 2ghz core duo, 1gb, 80gb, superdrive at the apple store this past sunday. it looks like now i could of gotten the core 2 duo with all the other same specs for about $200 cheaper. does anyone know if apple has some sort of exchange policy for situations like this?
To quote myself from another thread
Buying from an Applestore means that you have a 14 days price match policy. So if anyone bought theirs within the past 2 weeks, could get a price match.
At least that's what's on the receipt from the Applestore in Michigan Av. in Chicago, IL when I bought mine 4 weeks ago...
To quote myself from another thread
Buying from an Applestore means that you have a 14 days price match policy. So if anyone bought theirs within the past 2 weeks, could get a price match.
At least that's what's on the receipt from the Applestore in Michigan Av. in Chicago, IL when I bought mine 4 weeks ago...
hayesk
Sep 22, 04:20 PM
Unfortunately, you wouldn't because you'd probably be out of business.
I don't buy that argument. If a customer wants to buy a DVD, they'll just go to Best Buy instead of Walmart, or wherever else it is sold.
Walmart doesn't sell Grand Theft Auto, yet it is still a big seller in the video game market.
I don't buy that argument. If a customer wants to buy a DVD, they'll just go to Best Buy instead of Walmart, or wherever else it is sold.
Walmart doesn't sell Grand Theft Auto, yet it is still a big seller in the video game market.
rritterson
Mar 28, 08:49 PM
No, Apple is a hardware company that develops the OS that runs on its hardware.
Exactly. The software is one of the features of the hardware. Google Android, Microsoft Windows, etc, is what you get with a software company
Exactly. The software is one of the features of the hardware. Google Android, Microsoft Windows, etc, is what you get with a software company
SevenInchScrew
Oct 15, 01:13 AM
Actually, I have to take that back. I read just about anything related to Formula 1, but that's different as it happens IRL:rolleyes:
Yes, because as we all know, only things that happen in real life are interesting. :rolleyes:
Yes, because as we all know, only things that happen in real life are interesting. :rolleyes:
Fofer
Mar 28, 07:21 PM
Maybe it had nothing to do with money at all. Maybe "wife said no" because hubby is obsessed with gadgets and the Internet, and therefore pays no attention to wife, kids, dog or fish.
That said, Apple may not have necessarily helped with family by sending it back to hubby for free. All they did was undermine the wife's better judgment.
That said, Apple may not have necessarily helped with family by sending it back to hubby for free. All they did was undermine the wife's better judgment.
psychometry
Nov 6, 11:11 PM
Slap a Core 2 Duo in it, bump it up to a 15 or 15.4 inch screen and watch it become Apples best selling notebook ever.
:)
And don't have a single 12/13in model in existence? I don't think so.
Some people want small form factors. It's a shame Apple thinks form factors and power are in a 1-to-1 relationship. Some people want powerful laptops with smaller displays (12in PB is no more) or less powerful laptops with larger displays (15in iBook is no more). Hopefully Apple learns to stop limiting themselves in this way. Think differently differently.
:)
And don't have a single 12/13in model in existence? I don't think so.
Some people want small form factors. It's a shame Apple thinks form factors and power are in a 1-to-1 relationship. Some people want powerful laptops with smaller displays (12in PB is no more) or less powerful laptops with larger displays (15in iBook is no more). Hopefully Apple learns to stop limiting themselves in this way. Think differently differently.
WhitHoff
Mar 22, 02:03 PM
At least he GOT one..!!!
The rest of us that ORDERED ONE on the FIRST MORNING, still have to wait three frigging weeks !!!
NOT funny...
Well, if it's any help- we ordered first thing in the AM EST and the two I ordered came yesterday, along with the covers that we expected would come in advance- and all ended up here a day earlier than promised by FEDEX. :) Good luck :)
The rest of us that ORDERED ONE on the FIRST MORNING, still have to wait three frigging weeks !!!
NOT funny...
Well, if it's any help- we ordered first thing in the AM EST and the two I ordered came yesterday, along with the covers that we expected would come in advance- and all ended up here a day earlier than promised by FEDEX. :) Good luck :)
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